Did you have any expectations of where the PhD might lead?
I don't think I really clearly did at that point. I suppose I thought I wanted to become, that there was a possibility at the end of it of being an academic but in a way I think it was more about just the experience of doing a PhD or the opportunity to study something very closely for that period of time. It felt like a unique opportunity with having the funding to do it.
So you didn't, you didn't envisage an academic career when you embarked on the PhD?
Very hazily, probably, yes it was there and again it just felt like, as it had done, before I guess when I was thinking about doing a PhD it felt like, that felt like, well I'm not going to get the funding, I'm not clever enough to do a PhD. It kind of felt like 'well, I could do that but probably it's too far removed for me to do', even though I was doing a PhD it still felt like that sort of similar leap to be able to make it to a career. I didn't really make that leap. It was kind of there and 'yes, it would be nice and I could do it', but I suppose I wasn't sure how to make that transition or still felt a bit removed from what I could achieve I guess.