How would you advise somebody who is thinking about leaving academia and is interested in the possibility of pursuing a career in publishing? How would you advise them?
I would tell them to get work experience, like any, in any part of a publishing company to start with, you know any kind of work experience. I would also ask, say that they shouldn't focus on editorial only. I think when people when people come from PhDs that's the bit they want to get into but I think when you start, you know, it's worth trying to get in at any point in sales or marketing even thought that seems like a sort of million miles away from editorial. I think all that kind of experience really helps, I mean if you can get in as an editorial assistant to start with then that's great but I think it can only kind of broaden your skills set to do other things. I think it's a massive advantage, actually. So work experience, any kind of working in bookshops, any, any way you can sort of show that you've sort of had experience with dealing with books so even at the sales or the marketing end or the production end. If you've had any sort of experience of working on journals or doing any kind of copy editing there or anything like that at all, it kind of flags you up as someone that's, committed to doing it really. I think making it, showing that you're not, that this is actually what you really want to do and not what you're doing because you actually really want to be an academic, I think that always comes through in interviews.