Did you envisage an academic career?
In a very vague sense. I think I sort of assumed that that was what happened when people finished PhDs. I didn't really know how you got from A to B. I just sort of thought – and it was partly because of the institution where I'd done my Masters which was the first place I'd ever actually spent a lot of time around academics, particularly around early career academics who all just seemed to waft almost from PhD into junior research fellowship into lectureship, and I perhaps had this slightly optimistic and ill informed (in the context of most universities) picture of how that progression worked. I thought that it would have – I didn't really think about it that hard at the beginning of my PhD I have to say. It was just it was the kind of background and the kind of institution as well where I think it was assumed that if you did one then you would go on to do the other. But I never really thought until much later on about how that transition might work or not work.